I posted on Facebook under miniature horse and Pony Questions the following.
I have a little stallion that I put up for sale. One of the FB friends who looked at him said he could be perlino because he has blue eyes and pink skin. His sire is a blue roan and his dam I thought was buckskin but now have been told she may be ":silver black she has that chocolately color with blonde and brown in her mane and tail. But it may just be the lighting. " I have posted photos of both sire and dam, and their parents too. Please help me figure this out. If I were to do DNA, what would I test for other than Cr (dilution creme) or E (black)?
And by the way if you look at he mom (GrapeNuts) she has dappling and I know her sire, Gatsby, was dappled also.
UPDATE: This PERLINO PINTO has the following:
EE - two black genes Aa- one Agouti zZ - one silver dilution gene
CrCr - two cream dilution genes and at least one Tobiano (did not test for this)
UPDATE: This PERLINO PINTO has the following:
EE - two black genes Aa- one Agouti zZ - one silver dilution gene
CrCr - two cream dilution genes and at least one Tobiano (did not test for this)
I also provided the following photos:
This is Toad Hill's Fancy Honey Grahams.
Blue eyes
Pink skin
Pinto
My question is what color is this stallion?
I thought he was palomino, however above I have learned this was incorrect.
The comments also made me wonder just exactly what color is he?
What should I test for?
I also posted photos of his dam: Toad Hill's GrapeNuts and a photo of her other foal from the same breeding. The filly is Toad Hill's Honey Nuts.
Graham's sire is Boone's Buckero Fancy Pants...who I thought was just a solid, blue roan. NOT!!!
<-- To the left is Megabucks, sire to Fancy Pants above. Megabuck's sire is Boone's Little Buckeroo.To further muddy the waters now here are photos of GrapeNut's sire: Toad Hill's the Great Gatsby.
There were also at least 22 additional comments on the main album page.These comments follow below and were taken from Facebook on January 27, 2013:
- Toad Hill Minis I tried the Coat Color Calculator using the suggestions from Leia...here is what I get as possible offspring the of the parents:Offspring Color Probability
6.25% - Palomino Roan Tobiano
6.25% - Palomino Tobiano
4.69% - Buckskin Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Buckskin Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Buckskin Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Smoky Black Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Smoky Blue Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Smoky Black Tobiano
4.69% - Smoky Blue Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Buckskin Tobiano
3.13% - Chestnut Roan Tobiano
3.13% - Chestnut Tobiano
3.13% - Cremello Roan Tobiano
3.13% - Cremello Tobiano
2.34% - Blue Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Bay Tobiano
2.34% - Black Tobiano
2.34% - Bay Tobiano
2.34% - Perlino Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Bay Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Bay Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Smoky Cream Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Black Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Black Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Perlino Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Perlino Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Smoky Cream Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Smoky Cream Tobiano
2.34% - Smoky Cream Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Perlino Tobiano (Ee/Aa/CrCr or EE/Aa/CrCr) Therefore I will test for these three genes.
Some genetic traits are now obvious:
Fancy Pants has the black gene (E/?), the cremello gene (Cr/?), the tobiano gene (T/?) and may have Agouti (A/?).
GrapeNuts has cremello, tobiano (T/T - pretty sure).
One or both may have silver?
Graham is definitely has tobiano (T/?) and at least cream (Cr/?).
He will be tested for the following:
Cremello, Agouti, Silver. Say tuned for any answer.
Fancy Pants has the black gene (E/?), the cremello gene (Cr/?), the tobiano gene (T/?) and may have Agouti (A/?).
GrapeNuts has cremello, tobiano (T/T - pretty sure).
One or both may have silver?
Graham is definitely has tobiano (T/?) and at least cream (Cr/?).
He will be tested for the following:
Cremello, Agouti, Silver. Say tuned for any answer.
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