I posted on Facebook under miniature horse and Pony Questions the following.
I have a little stallion that I put up for sale. One of the FB friends who looked at him said he could be perlino because he has blue eyes and pink skin. His sire is a blue roan and his dam I thought was buckskin but now have been told she may be ":silver black she has that chocolately color with blonde and brown in her mane and tail. But it may just be the lighting. " I have posted photos of both sire and dam, and their parents too. Please help me figure this out. If I were to do DNA, what would I test for other than Cr (dilution creme) or E (black)?
And by the way if you look at he mom (GrapeNuts) she has dappling and I know her sire, Gatsby, was dappled also.
UPDATE: This PERLINO PINTO has the following:
EE - two black genes Aa- one Agouti zZ - one silver dilution gene
CrCr - two cream dilution genes and at least one Tobiano (did not test for this)
I also provided the following photos:
This is Toad Hill's Fancy Honey Grahams.
Blue eyes
Pink skin
Pinto
My question is what color is this stallion?
I thought he was palomino, however above I have learned this was incorrect.
The comments also made me wonder just exactly what color is he?
I also posted photos of his dam: Toad Hill's GrapeNuts and a photo of her other foal from the same breeding. The filly is Toad Hill's Honey Nuts.
Comments from Facebook:
Graham's sire is Boone's Buckero Fancy Pants...who I thought was just a solid, blue roan. NOT!!!
<-- To the left is Megabucks, sire to Fancy Pants above. Megabuck's sire is Boone's Little Buckeroo.
To further muddy the waters now here are photos of GrapeNut's sire: Toad Hill's the Great Gatsby.
These photos do not show the dapple coloring that Gatsby has developed over time.
There were also at least 22 additional comments on the main album page.
These comments follow below and were taken from Facebook on January 27, 2013:
I tried the Coat Color Calculator using the suggestions from Leia...here is what I get as possible offspring the of the parents:Offspring Color Probability
6.25% - Palomino Roan Tobiano
6.25% - Palomino Tobiano
4.69% - Buckskin Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Buckskin Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Buckskin Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Smoky Black Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Smoky Blue Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Smoky Black Tobiano
4.69% - Smoky Blue Roan Tobiano
4.69% - Silver Buckskin Tobiano
3.13% - Chestnut Roan Tobiano
3.13% - Chestnut Tobiano
3.13% - Cremello Roan Tobiano
3.13% - Cremello Tobiano
2.34% - Blue Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Bay Tobiano
2.34% - Black Tobiano
2.34% - Bay Tobiano
2.34% - Perlino Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Bay Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Bay Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Smoky Cream Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Black Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Black Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Perlino Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Perlino Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Smoky Cream Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Silver Smoky Cream Tobiano
2.34% - Smoky Cream Roan Tobiano
2.34% - Perlino Tobiano (Ee/Aa/CrCr or EE/Aa/CrCr) Therefore I will test for these three genes.
Some genetic traits are now obvious:
Fancy Pants has the black gene (E/?), the cremello gene (Cr/?), the tobiano gene (T/?) and may have Agouti (A/?).
GrapeNuts has cremello, tobiano (T/T - pretty sure).
One or both may have silver?
Graham is definitely has tobiano (T/?) and at least cream (Cr/?).
He will be tested for the following:
Cremello, Agouti, Silver. Say tuned for any answer.
